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Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.13 16:10:00 - [1] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Rodj Blake I can confirm that Andreus is a worse zealot than me. He's rubbish when it comes to zealotry. Confirming that I am far too intelligent and clear-minded to be a zealot. Even Rodj Blake agrees. Zealotry does not require a lack of intelligence, it merely requires extreme dedication to a person, cause or ideal. I will suggest that you zealously advertise and support your claim to atheism, as well as consistently insist that your viewpoint is the only logical and rational one. zeal [zeel] ûnoun fervor for a person, cause, or object; eager desire or endeavor; enthusiastic diligence; ardor. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.13 16:27:00 - [2] Originally by: Rek Jaiga I'm not sure how the scriptures regard slavery. It is said that those who need to be brought to the light of God most be put in the holy bonds of slavery. What if these holy bonds are not literal slavery, but a metaphor for human nature? What if all of us are in the holy bonds of slavery; what if we are all slaves to sin and human nature? Can anyone more learned in Amarrian theology discuss this with me? Mr. Jaiga, As your question and interest seem sincere, I would be happy to meet and talk with you. I do not claim to be a master theologian that will have all of the answers and be the final authority on all things Amarrian, but I am willing to at least share what I do now and how I understand the Scriptures with you. If you are interested in meeting with me, simply send me an eve mail or open a channel with me any time I am at the neocomm. With sincerity, --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.13 16:34:00 - [3] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Raze Valadeus Zealotry does not require a lack of intelligence, it merely requires extreme dedication to a person, cause or ideal. I will suggest that you zealously advertise and support your claim to atheism, as well as consistently insist that your viewpoint is the only logical and rational one. But it is. That's the advantage of logic and rationality - they do, on occasion, provide a single answer. I can't help it if religious people are too stupid to see that. It isn't my fault that I'm right. See hypocrisy. Also zealotry. Your own words prove my point better than I ever could. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.13 16:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Rodj Blake If you really think that the Amarrian viewpoint is neither logical nor rational, then you clearly don't have the mental faculty to understand it. You believe in an invisible Incorrect. Originally by: Andreus Ixiris , magical Incorrect. Originally by: Andreus Ixiris alien Incorrect. Originally by: Andreus Ixiris monster Incorrect. Originally by: Andreus Ixiris that has the capacity to torture you after you die. Capacity? Sure. Your understanding of the core principle behind this entity is flawed, however. Incorrect. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.13 16:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Raze Valadeus Incorrect. Simply saying that something is incorrect does not make it so. Everything described about your... "god" gives it the characteristics of an invisible, magical alien monster, and that is precisely what it is. Believing in it basically excludes rationality and logic from your vocabulary, so please find some other words to use. Ah, more irony. You are the same individual who discounted another's argument against you with a single word and when asked to expound, you declined using yet another single word. Allow me to put that in terms you'll understand. Incorrect. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.13 17:06:00 - [6] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris The fact is, I was actually right. Here's the advantage I will always have over Amarrians: I happen to live in reality, and reality doesn't change because Amarrians think it does. It is clearly a complete waste of time even attempting to speak with you. Your argument is flawed on so many levels I don't even know where to start, it's a catastrophe. So instead, I will simply say that "reality is not defined by you, reality does not yield to your viewpoint just because you think it does." I'm done with you. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.13 18:16:00 - [7] Originally by: Sir Oliver Midwestshire There is a reason why the Amarr were the first to come out of the dark ages, the first to reinvent star travel, the most technologically advanced and the owners of the largest empire in the galaxy. Our religion. Religion united us. While Gallente and Caldari fought each other and while the Minmatar fought themselves we were expanding rapidly, as well as advancing in all aspects. You Atheist are constantly at war with each other, it's hard to keep track of your puny empires that keep rising and falling. Where as we remain whole for thousands of years because of our beliefs. At least the Caldari got some common sense. You Gallente claim to be peaceful but routinely nuke civilians from orbit. And you say we lack moral decency. The attack by Uriam Kador was just the beginning, soon you will see the wrath of God. With all due respect Sir Midwestshire, This discussion has little to do with the unity and purpose of government bodies. To suggest that everyone with the Federation is an atheist in need of burning is a gross misrepresentation of the Federation as a whole. Beyond that, Mister Ixiris is hardly a representative of the Gallente people as a whole, no matter how much he may wish to believe himself so. He is one individual, speaking as an individual against a group of people. If you wish to defend your kin from his attacks, then defend them without attacking another group of people in the process - otherwise you become just like the very person you're attempting to argue with. Other than that, I agree that faith brings unity among our people and that our collective unity has helped us achieve much of what we have achieved. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.13 18:51:00 - [8] I advise against responding to anything Mister Ixiris says. It is intended entirely to goad further response and inflate his own ego. Nothing will be gained by further discussion with him and the continued arguments are simply a method of chest-beating. To be quite frank, this entire topic of conversation was to illicit a response that could then be further attacked and we've played into it. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus

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